Letters to the Editor
A necessary phone call
POSTED: November 21, 2009
To the editor:
Please everyone vote today, if it isn't already too late and hopefully it isn't, to call you senators.
Let them know you do not want Sen. Harry Reid, who plans to hold the Senate floor and have confirmation of David Hamilton to the Federal 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. Hamilton has consistently ruled against pro-life measures and ruled for illegal Indiana legislators to invoke Jesus, but perfectly legal to call on Allah. These are issues of leftist groups.
We do not want Obama to stack the courts with far left extremists.
Call your senator today and ask them to vote no on the cloture vote and oppose David Hamilton as a judge to the Circuit Court of Appeals. At the same time, even if you have already, tell them to exclude abortion in the health care bills.
Call Sen. Amy Klobuchar at 202-224-3244 and Sen. Al Franken at 202-224-5641.
Mrs. Vern Downing
Taunton
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ruralroute
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11-25-09 4:06 PM
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morality is legislated every day, isn't it? Don't we always hear that "it's our moral duty to help the poor?" through social programs?
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ruralroute
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11-25-09 4:05 PM
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hartman, most people believe gay marriage and other laws should be determined by the either the state legislatures or the voters of each state, not by some judge trying to set an agenda and get on the TV news. How many states, hartman, have actually passed approval on gay marriage through a state referendum or a legislative vote? Vermont, New Hampshire and Connecticut. Three others were Iowa, California and Massachusetts all determined by a judge - not the voters or the legislatures. What would your reaction be, Hartman, if a judge just decided out of the blue to validate school prayer, or order religious teaching of the Bible or the Koran? You'd be up in arms, stating it was an activist judge. My point in that post wasn't to debate it, but rather point out that Congress should make ALL laws, not the courts. The Courts are there to determine if they are constitutional or not.
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hartman75
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11-25-09 2:49 PM
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"It's not the court's job to make up the laws, which happens on issues like gay marriage, abortion, etc." That is not true, ruralroute. Judges ONLY determine if existing laws are constitutional. If not, the law is stricken down and legislators must then come up with a law that meets constitutional standards. Therein lies the rub. It depends on how the judge INTERPRETS the constitution, using past rulings as a guide. Whether you believe the Constitution of this country was intended to be analogous with Biblical teachings or not, God granted each of us free will. Shouldn't our laws grant us the ability to do with our bodies what we chose? You can NOT legislate morality! More funding is needed to educate men and women on ways to avoid unwanted pregnancies. Abstinence, by itself, is not a realistic form of birth control.
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ruralroute
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11-25-09 8:30 AM
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Hartman, the problem is activist judges both ways -- you are right. The Congress should vote to make the laws; the courts' jobs is to interpret them and determine what is constitutional and what is not -- checks and balances. It's not the court's job to make up the laws, which happens on issues like gay marriage, abortion, etc. Igor, I do agree with you with Bush and abortion -- you are correct on his total disregard for the issue once he was elected and re-elected. Igor and grumpy, I hope some of the evidence I listed earlier gives you an indication of my points. There are other examples online as well...
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ruralroute
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11-25-09 8:22 AM
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Grumpy: Washington Post website states that Klobuchar votes with her party more than McCain and Mitch McConnell, which is saying something. She has been in office since 2006, and do you know how many bills she has sponsored that have been inacted into law? One. Only five even made it out of committee (from the govtrack web site). But if one of the Dems needs a co-sponsor, she is the person, cosponsoring dozens of bills. Translation: she does what she is told. As far as Franken goes, just look at his campaign contributions -- the web site newsmeat(dot)org lists those who have contributed to political campaigns. Among the "mainstreamers" in this group include Bill Maher, Alan Dershowitz, Phil Donahue, Rosie O'Donnell and Alec Baldwin. You vote with where the money comes from, and when you have millions of dollars that have come from Hollywood...it's no different that the Republicans with big oil or other big business.
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igorvitch
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11-23-09 10:21 PM
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I'm against abortions, except in cases of rape, incest, and to save the mother's life. Tell me, Mrs. Downing, what have Republicans done about abortion on demand, other than to use it as a convenient wedge issue during elections and at times like the debate over health care, where they got the restrictions they wanted but still bring up the issue. The truth is that strict fundamentalists with their preaching against sensible sex education and birth control may well cause more unwanted pregnancies and, consequently, abortions than the pro-choice groups who actually work at preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place. I know you are a good woman with the best intentions, but I also know that often people like you are naive and easily taken advantage by people who manipulate issues about abortion but do nothing about them other than use their emotional powers. What did Bush, a Republican Congress and a conservative Supreme Court do about abortion from 2000-2006?
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igorvitch
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11-23-09 10:12 PM
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ruralroute. What you've said here proves absolutely nothing about anything. Grumpyoldman has asked for specifics and you give none. People ask for Republicans to give specific ideas or solutions about any of our problems and they get the same inane and useless sound bites from Rush Limbaugh. One only has to look at the entirely insurance favorable health bill from the Republicans to see how hurting they are for common sense ideas: (1) no elimination of pre-existing conditions, (2) no elimination of dropping people who've paid excessive premiums all their lives and are dropped when they actually need the insurance because they sick are no longer profitable, (3) nothing about making insurance companies subject to anti-monopoly laws, (4) nothing to ensure insurance companies actually compete for our hard-earned money. This travesty may as well have been written by Blue Cross and Blue Shield because it benefits them far more than it does average Americans. So what's new?
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hartman75
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11-23-09 2:08 PM
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I'm confused. Conservative's, as Ms. Downing seems to be, believe Judges of a more liberal bent are "activists" in their view of current law. In essence, trying to change laws to reflect a more liberal view. Yet Ms. Downing is critical of Justice Hamilton claiming he "consistently ruled against pro-life measures...". A Judge is not charged with MAKING law, Ms. Downing, but to enforce existing LAW. Legislators are responsible for making/changing laws.
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Grumpyoldman
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11-21-09 12:03 PM
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I'm truly not saying that what RR is saying is right wrong or indifferent - just asking for proof from RR. If you are going to make accusations I assume that you will have the proof to back up the accusations. If not - don't make them.
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rangeral
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11-21-09 11:03 AM
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Grump - call Amy's office and try to get anyone to talk to you about illegal immigration. You won't get anywhere. Ask what Amy did to help the Cottonwood community - nothing. But she will send you a picture of her standing on the new I-35 bridge!
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Grumpyoldman
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11-21-09 10:59 AM
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I'm afraid RR that your diatribe is getting a little too old to bear - I will have to ask you to site some CONCRETE examples of which "Hollywood Liberals" Mr. Franken cares more about - please be specific. Please also tell me in detail how Sen. Klobuchar is Harry Reid's puppet. You come up with something documentable and credible and I will let it go -but for now all you seem to do is throw crap against the wall with the hopes that some of it sticks.
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ruralroute
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11-21-09 9:51 AM
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Sen. Klobuchar (who is Harry Reid's puppet) and Sen. Franken (who cares more about Hollywood liberals than his constituency) will do exactly what the party-line says. No different than the sell-out Republicans under Bush. Heaven forbid there is independent thought from people in either party.
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