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Facts, beliefs and public debate

February 26, 2014

To the editor: In a letter published in the Independent on Feb 19, John Frerich wrote that he was offended by an editorial published in the Feb 15-16 edition of the Independent....

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Scout101

Apr-15-14 6:10 PM

If the name B. Hussein Obama offends you maybe you shouldn't have voted for him.

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Scout101

Apr-15-14 6:05 PM

Really, fool. It was Eric Holder playing the race card at his recent appearance with Al Sharpton. No racism isn't gone and it's comments by people like our attorney general that keep it alive and well.

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Really

Apr-13-14 11:44 PM

Scout, fool, Anytime race is brought up the right immediately runs to the "playing the race card" defense. Its the go to move. As if somehow racism has been eradicated. Tell us what the intention was if it wasn't racism? Let the laughter commence after the spin begins.

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Scout101

Mar-14-14 5:30 PM

Just read through this entire conversation and came to one conclusion. "Really" has no facts or valid arguments so in desperation he pulled the race card. A totally unfounded accusation Really.

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Really

Mar-13-14 4:40 AM

NBHH, No pal what you did, how you intended it, was pure racism no question about it.

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rangeral

Mar-07-14 12:17 PM

Thanks for caring, hartman.

Now, if you just had some common sense.

I suppose now I will be labeled a racist by you and really.

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NoBleedingHeartHere

Mar-07-14 11:37 AM

Oooh, Really, I'm not politically correct. How absolutely horrible!! You probably voted for Obama, so I don't have to point out how clueless you are. But what is astounding here is you are "going on record" saying that political correctness IS more important than freedom of speech, and that EVERYTHING else is racism. You fit right into Thee Monarch's distorted frame of reference. That being; raising frivolous things to importance, while relegating important things to irrelevance.

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hartman75

Mar-07-14 9:13 AM

Fact is rangeral, no one can imitate O'Reilly as well as you. The ability to regurgitate false and misleading information in such a convincing manner is a trait only a few individuals possess. Congrats!

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rangeral

Mar-06-14 11:49 PM

And here I thought really was a variation on Bill O'Rielly.

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Really

Mar-06-14 9:21 PM

Al, "really" is a reaction of exasperation to what the ignorant righties on this forum post. I thought it was pretty self explanatory.

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Really

Mar-06-14 9:18 PM

NBHH, you wrote it with intention, its on the record, live with your racism. It couldn't be seen as anything else so stop deflecting and own it.

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rangeral

Mar-05-14 6:13 PM

hartman - where have you been? I offered to show you how to conserve energy and to live in an eco friendly way - but you went silent on this topic. I also asked you what you were doing to save the planet. But you always talk about what other people should be doing.

Start the process all over - look in the mirror and have a good talk with yourself - then report back on these pages what you do and what you are going to do.

Otherwise, you are just a big fake. You could change your handle on these posts to algorewannabe.

By the way, what kind of name is "really"?

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NoBleedingHeartHere

Mar-04-14 5:08 PM

Obama- the last 5-1/2 years is your attempt at what? Fascism? Or is it just pointing out that a combination of gross ineptitude and liberal progressivism can make a laughing stock out of a once powerful nation, which you are intent destroying?

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NoBleedingHeartHere

Mar-04-14 4:49 PM

Really - "Rascism" That's your attempt at what? Spelling? Or is it pointing out that political correctness is more important than freedom of speech?

Really, the real joke here is that only politically correct you could twist my post into racism, or I should say rascism.

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Really

Mar-04-14 5:30 AM

NBHH, "B. Hussein Obama" that is your attempt at what? Rascism? Ignorance? Rallying the troops? Or just pointing out that the President doesn't have a stereo typical anglo name, and just how dangerous that could be. You are a JOKE!

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NoBleedingHeartHere

Feb-28-14 5:02 PM

"I would but nothing's there": Can't see the forest for the trees hartmann?

BTW, your USGS guys would probably agree with another oblivious group, the EPA, who say that CO2 is a pollutant. Those forests that you can't see would beg to differ.

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hartman75

Feb-28-14 4:04 PM

You're right, the dog doesn't get it. I knew I could count on you to wag the dog, WW07. Thanks for the laugh.

"Aim my last post at hartmann."

I would NBHH, but nothings there.

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WW07

Feb-28-14 3:29 PM

BTW, Hart Man, re your other comment:

Thank you for so aptly demonstrating my observation. The dog, truly, does not get it.

Arf.

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NoBleedingHeartHere

Feb-28-14 2:56 PM

Aim my last post at hartmann.

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NoBleedingHeartHere

Feb-28-14 2:54 PM

Your sources, on the other hand, are like going to the Sierra Club or Media Matters. Check out the rosters of your sources. I think you will discover that they really, really like B. Hussein Obama, Al Gore and/or John Kerry.

Here's one for you. Now you are in big support of Greenpeace, right? One of it's co-founders spoke to Congressional hearings saying there is no basis for belief in "man caused climate change". He says further that he parted ways with Greenpeace because they became too political, and that environmental concerns were relatively low in priority by comparison.

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WW07

Feb-28-14 2:53 PM

" Your list of sources reads like a Who’s Who of individuals and organizations funded by oil companies and conservative groups that boast agendas designed to discredit any and all factual evidence related to climate change, regardless of its significance."

Why would I retrace steps that have been ably taken by others? What is "discredit factual evidence" to you, Hart Man, is counter disproven propaganda to me. Alan Caruba is a first rate source for information. He reports truth. Speaks truth to power, as 't'were. And you clearly cannot refute him or you would not resort to smearing him by questioning his motives.

Yours is the politics of resentment. It is useful to those who really have an agenda, the world ruling class.

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hartman75

Feb-28-14 2:29 PM

“It is like barking back at yapping dog. The dog doesn't get it, but it is still fun.”

As disturbing as that sounds, somehow it doesn’t surprise me WW07.

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hartman75

Feb-28-14 2:26 PM

WW07, using the “Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow” or Alan Caruba's blog as a credible source of information on climate change is like going to the KKK website to get accurate information about African Americans. Your list of sources reads like a Who’s Who of individuals and organizations funded by oil companies and conservative groups that boast agendas designed to discredit any and all factual evidence related to climate change, regardless of its significance. Most of your quotes were taken from Alan Caruba's blog. You would have been better off snapping your fingers instead of wasting your time copy and pasting propaganda. If you’re feeling brave, NBHH & WW07, check out the United States Geological Survey (USGS) and Union of Concerned Scientists websites, neither of which receive funding from political groups, trade associations or special interest groups.

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WW07

Feb-28-14 11:58 AM

NBHH, I would have said shoveling smoke. Still, they are so determined that they are smart and we are NUTZ! that now and again it amuses me to make a "I actually MIGHT BE dangerous" move.

It is like barking back at yapping dog. The dog doesn't get it, but it is still fun.

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NoBleedingHeartHere

Feb-28-14 11:30 AM

WW07, Rangeral. You might as well stop arguing with them. The 1st problem is they don't understand what they are arguing about. You've got Really and blasphemer "howling at the moon" on a moonless night. And then there is hartmann. Is this one schizophrenic? Is it Sybil in disguise? On one post, claiming to be "understanding" points made on this side of the argument. And on the very next post stooping to ridicule and derision of you for even making the point. Was reminded of that again yesterday.

Just provide them with the argument. Avoid the tit for tat. I know it's fun but, let them howl and screech and attempt to beittle you for lack of a sensible response, then move on. As the saying goes: "It's like herding cats".

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