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Honor our Creator

May 3, 2013

To the editor: In our country, the United States of America, many people pray to God when there are tragedies and believe that even little children are God’s children, lovingly received into HIs......

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westline

May-03-13 5:15 AM

Well said. You and I will not be popular here, but if you recall the beatitudes, blessed are we.

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WBL947

May-03-13 7:56 AM

Excellent letter Trudy. Certainly the marriage of a man and woman is clearly sanctioned in the Bible. I am confident that this will continue to be recognized by the government and churches.

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hartman75

May-03-13 1:19 PM

For Trudy, westline, WBL947 and all those who think EVERY person living in the United States MUST follow "Christian" teaching it's really quite simple; individuals are FREE to follow the religious teachings of THEIR choice. No person has the right to force others to follow those teachings. As long as YOU choose not to marry another woman Trudy, then you have fulfilled Gods will as you believe it to be. Gay marriage has NOTHING to do with religion - IT has EVERYTHING to do with providing EQUAL RIGHTS. Why is this concept so difficult to grasp?

It’s a little odd that one would reference the Beatitudes in remarks that endorse oppression and prejudice against others. The Beatitude’s reaffirm the teachings of Jesus concerning mercy and compassion. As a whole, they focus on the Christian ideals of love and humility instead of force and exaction. Shouldn’t those who expect others to abide by a religion, also submit to that religion?

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AModerate

May-03-13 1:35 PM

Ms. Madetzke and others who think homosexuality is “wrong” are free to hold whatever views their conscious will allow. I disagree with their opinions (and biblical interpretations) as adamantly as they disagree with my position of equality, but this is America and we have religious freedom. They are entitled to pick and choose any reference to support their views and if they do not wish attend a gay wedding (or send presents) they should not be forced to do so. However, there is a difference between holding an opinion and impacting other people’s lives through the imposition of laws denying law abiding Americans the right to marry. Homosexuality may be a sin in the eyes of Ms. Madetzke, but it is not in the eyes of the law. The anti-Gay marriage provisions are discriminatory and speak of a “Jim Crow” mentality.

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WBL947

May-03-13 3:25 PM

Hartman, your assumption about me is not stated or implied in my post. I believe that Trudy did construct a well thought out letter. She expressed her ideas and ideology clearly. The Bible does refer to marriage between a man and a woman. Our government will continue to recognize marriage between a man and a woman. When our government recognizes marriage between two people the only change will be that more people will have equal rights. So...excellent letter Trudy, it is well constructed and documented. It expresses a conservative view very well. Hartman please do not infer that I am conservative, I find it offensive.

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westline

May-03-13 4:35 PM

." it's really quite simple; individuals are FREE to follow the religious teachings of THEIR choice. No person has the right to force others to follow".....So, how about if the religious teaching of my choice demands that I own guns, and that I use them to kill every third person that goes into Wal-Mart?

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Vaughn

May-03-13 4:45 PM

My question for Ms. Madetzke and supporters (WBL, I noted your very carefully worded omission and got your point) is, "If God doesn't like homosexuals, why does He create them?" The follow up question is, "Since God DOES create homosexuals, is it possible you are misreading scripture in believing you know His mind?"

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hartman75

May-03-13 6:38 PM

I didn't imply or assume anything WBL. You clearly stated that the government should continue to view marriage in the same context as religions. On this issue I disagree with you and provided my reasoning - that's all.

No westline, because no "religion" that sanctioned murder would ever be "recognized". Based on Trudy's argument (with which you agree), an Islamist living in the US should be allowed to practice Sharia law. Would you find that acceptable?

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WBL947

May-03-13 7:34 PM

Hartman I did not say should, I said will. The government WILL continue to recognize a marriage between a man and a woman, which is the same as most churches recognize it.

When the government gives equal rights to all people nothing will change for those who believe marriage should be only for 1 man and 1 woman. A man and a woman will still be able to get married and have all the rights and privileges given to married people. That point was implied in my first post. Sorry you did not get it. Are you trying to say the government should not recognize a marriage between a man and a woman?

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hartman75

May-04-13 12:18 AM

You're right WBL, I misinterpreted your initial post. As you correctly point out, nothing will change for Trudy or her religion when gay marriage is legalized. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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rangeral

May-04-13 5:43 PM

As usual, hartman and others have no tolerance for other points of view. If you do not want to be religious, fine, but that is no excuse for being intolerant of others that do have religious beliefs. Same goes for gays - you are extremely intolerant of those that don't support gay marriage - and label them racist and bigots.

You take the cake for being both - racist and bigoted.

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WBL947

May-05-13 7:56 AM

As usual, Ranger and others have no tolerance for other points of view. If you want to be religious, fine, but that is no excuse for being intolerant of others that do have different beliefs. Same goes for gays - you are extremely intolerant of those that support gay marriage - and label them racist and bigots.

You take the cake for being both - racist and bigoted.

Ranger, it is time to clean your mirror.

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rangeral

May-05-13 3:13 PM

Just as I said, wbl - you have no respect for my opinion that I don't approve of gay marriage - and for that you label me.

Look in your own mirror.

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WBL947

May-05-13 4:48 PM

Ranger and Trudy, you have represented your opinion very well.

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eburke

May-05-13 8:10 PM

Again, I think religion is simply a diversion from the secular perspective on marriage. I will concede that Western religion has formed the foundation for the marriage institution, but this appears to be a new age, and because so, it is logical to state that anyone who wants to get married should be able to do so. That includes imported marriages, like within the Islamic community, who find same-sex marriage abhorrent, but multiple wives appropriate. I'm not sure why those folks can't have their marriages respected, no matter how unpopular they are. Perhaps the same-sex marriage activists can start advocating for these politically powerless groups.

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commonman

May-08-13 6:19 PM

Westline, another ignorant comment and thank you for wearing that label so proudly. Here's hoping you get a follow up visit from the local law enforcement.

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commonman

May-08-13 6:21 PM

....and I think a better word is "touched", not "blessed".

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Midwest1977

May-10-13 9:12 AM

Since the state government is clearly going to pass the same-sex marriage bill, isn't it time for the righties on here to just admit that we've moved into the reality of the 21st century? Al, the only reason people get labeled as bigots is because they insist on forcing their views on others. When the Christian conservative movement tries to put an amendment into our state Constitution that INFRINGES on someone else's rights, that is bigotry. Now, if that same conservative was to say "I don't believe in gay marriage, but I am not going to try to make it illegal", I would not label them a bigot. Narrow-minded, perhaps, but they are entitled to their views, because (GASP) this is still America, and just because gay people are allowed to get married, it doesn't mean that the world is coming to an end. It's time for people to realize that gays are just asking to have the same rights as straight couples, not trying to take away anything of theirs. CONT......

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Midwest1977

May-10-13 9:13 AM

CONT….. The amendment that was added to the bill also allows for churches to refuse to marry gay couples. So, once again, the marriage equality movement is not FORCING people to do anything. If your church doesn’t want to perform marriage ceremonies for gay couples, they have the RIGHT not to do so. Once again, this is still America. Let’s all just get back to focusing on issues that truly affect the country.

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rangeral

May-10-13 2:23 PM

wbl - I don;t want to pay for gay partner benefits via my taxes. So I am directly affected. If you are still living at home, it won;t impact you but it will your parents.

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Midwest1977

May-10-13 3:34 PM

Al, I guarantee that there are a ton of pro-right ideas out there that are paid for by the taxes of those on the left. Your assertion that not wanting to pay taxes is an OK reason to infringe on another person's civil rights is ludicrous. It is grasping at straws, and that's the kind of logic that gets you labeled as a bigot.

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rangeral

May-10-13 5:40 PM

OK - I'll bite - where does it say that gay marriage is a civil right? Bill of r]Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, which one?

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eburke

May-10-13 6:17 PM

Now that Minnesota is poised to recognize same-sex marriage, other relationships, as I have suggested, deserve equal respect. Bigamy is certainly within the realm since its historical roots go back thousands of years. After bigamy, then other forms, whatever composition, also deserve respect, like three male adults or three female adults. I suggest this because the institution of marriage is firmly on the slippery slope. That is, there is no guiding standard as to what should be recognized, only what feels good and what is right in our contemporary times. As I have consistently suggested, I'm okay with the new world as long as everyone can participate in it.

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WBL947

May-11-13 8:43 AM

So Ranger doesn't wanna pay taxes that support marriages that he does not condone. Certainly he can make a long list of things he does not want his taxes to support. Whaa Whaa....grow up. Welcome to life.

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rangeral

May-11-13 11:09 AM

wbl - pretty obvious you are a welfare moocher.

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