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Make your voice heard for our children’s sake

April 26, 2013

To the Editor: In Congress, July 4, 1776. The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America....

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SomeSensePlease

Apr-26-13 7:06 AM

It's "naive" not "nave", Kelly. Why should a bunch of christians impose their beliefs on the rest of us? Your church needs to take a look at the gay people in your own congregation and ask yourselves how they feel when you spew your load of manure about gay people. They are in the closet and don't dare come out.

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cowhand

Apr-26-13 9:43 AM

This great nation would not have lasted this long, if founded on the principals SomeSensePlease spews and now thanks to many like him/her, our country's very existence is in jeopardy. God help us all.

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blasphemer

Apr-26-13 9:51 AM

Rev, Keep YOUR god out of MY government. If you are going to pray then do it for your OWN salvation.

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rangeral

Apr-26-13 10:15 AM

Good letter.

Only those that are looking for more than equal treatment are complaining, in this case blasphemer and littlesenseplease.

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hartman75

Apr-26-13 10:27 AM

Seems to me cowhand, in the mid 1800's this nation was nearly torn apart by prejudice and hate fostered by ignorance. All individuals deserve to be treated equally regardless of color, religion or sex. The very existence of our country is only threatened when prejudice and hate is condoned in the name of God.

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BanStupidity

Apr-26-13 10:57 AM

Some people are born straight; some people are born gay. Some people are born left-handed or blonde or caucasian. No one and nothing can change what we are born to be -- especially not the bible. I'm making my voice heard for our children's sake because I don't want them to grow up hating and judging others. It's about being a decent person, not a bigoted christian.

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KaptainKrunch

Apr-26-13 11:05 AM

Blasphemer, It would appear that your God is the government.

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rangeral

Apr-26-13 8:50 PM

What I don't understand is if you are gay, why would you run down heterosexual marriage for your own gain? Isn't this what accusing those opposing gay marriage as doing?

Many in the gay community use this tactic to get their own way. They don't care about hetero-sexual marriages, where virtually all of them were born into.

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ProgressMarshall

Apr-26-13 11:39 PM

I know many people who attend this church and I don't think of them as haters.

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EmptyPockets

Apr-27-13 8:02 AM

I'm an average guy who goes to church almost every Sunday, I'm in no position to debate the bible with anybody and don't intend to. I really think a lot of us are on the same side and don't realize it. I don't like to see the gay-marriage issue take so much time & energy away from what Jesus commanded us to do. Love the Lord with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself. Of all the teaching in the bible that's the only thing I keep in my mind, the rest seems to follow. I'm not a proponant of gay-marriage, but if we're going to take the bible to heart just read what Jesus had to say about divorce. To me that's a bigger threat to the security of children's well being and every church I can think of looks the other way on this issue.

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WBL947

Apr-28-13 8:21 AM

Each child is unique and special. Why would this church or any church teach them to fear people who are not the same as them? Why are the children taught to be bigots? They love God but find some of His people unacceptable, not fit to raise children, an abomination, a threat to their way of life simply because of the way they were born. What is the next faction they will choose to label as unacceptable sinners? Perhaps divorcees, or single parents would be easy groups to ostracize.

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rangeral

Apr-28-13 11:25 AM

Then why WBL do the gay folks run down heterosexual marriage and call us bigots?

If we don't agree with you on this issue, and others, why do you always trot out the bigot card, the race card, etc. If our opinion is different that yours on any issue, then discuss it like an adult and cut out the childishness.

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AModerate

Apr-28-13 12:51 PM

I try to emulate Addicus Finch and compassionately understand people with views and prejudices different than mine. However, as a step parent and someone who was once a single parent, I am personally offended by this letter. Two people can form a great family with non biological children whether they are of the opposite gender or the same. Good parenting is not a function of biology or sexual orientation. If opponents of gay marriage want to set the moral code for everyone, they should have the guts to stand up and say it instead of trying to hide behind an illogical argument regarding child welfare. Even Mit Romney said he had no problems with gay people being parents, he just didn’t think they should be able to marry. If the members of this church (I assume the pastor is writing in his official capacity representing them) really cared about addressing the many child welfare issues that are out there, they should focus on solutions that will have an actual impact.

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WBL947

Apr-28-13 1:41 PM

Ranger, the term bigot is used because there are people who have an unwavering prejudice against those who believe all people should have equal rights. That attitude fits the definition of bigot. Do gay folks run down heterosexual marriage? Not likely. Empty pockets and Moderate...great posts, thanks.

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westline

Apr-28-13 9:16 PM

The Skagit Valley Tulip festival is a celebration of the beauty of tulips in Washington state on over 1000 acres during the month of April

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westline

Apr-28-13 9:20 PM

Recently dandelions have demanded their equal rights and want to now be known as tulips also, so they can be involved in the tulip festival. After many years of whining, the government of the state of Washington has officially recognized dandelions as tulips.

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westline

Apr-28-13 9:25 PM

My point, of course, is that even if the "government" says dandelions are tulips, all they will ever be are dandelions. And, of course, the same is true here. Calling something marriage, that is not in fact a marriage at all, will never make it so.

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justmythoughts

Apr-29-13 12:01 AM

Why is it that the GBLT crowd gathers wherever there is opposition? 4/5 of the comments on this site are against this courageous pastor. 4/5 of our community did NOT vote in favor of gay marriage. GBLTs email these things to each other, then stand in support of themselves. Peer pressure at it's finest. Get a clue. Go away. Find your own niche in this world. Fill the metro areas. Fill California. Fill Disney World. I don't care, but get your noses out of our newspaper. The vote was taken last fall to NOT accept gay marriage here.

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AModerate

Apr-29-13 8:20 AM

Rangeral asked earlier in this exchange why those opposing same sex marriage are often portrayed as bigots and racists. This last post from Just... is the answer. It could have come from the heart of Mississippi in 1955. If you don't think gays should marry, don't marry one. This is about equal rights.

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rangeral

Apr-29-13 9:40 AM

Stating fact you don't like does not make one a bigot.

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eburke

Apr-29-13 11:11 AM

It is always a difficult mental exercise for some to understand the the degree of entanglement between religion and the state on matters that go far beyond marriage and children. It is for this reason that religion, as a factor for making good public policy, should be removed from the equation. I suggest this only to clarify the issues, as religion turns into a red herring and confuses a lot of folks. So, with that, on policy grounds, perhaps the state should remove reference to marriage from the legislative language. If three people--two men and a female--wanted to get married and adopt ten children, I'm not sure why the state would say No. If we're looking for tolerance, then different households, no matter their composition, should be respected. And what they do in the house, short of harm to the children, wouldn't be any business of the state.

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Merritt

Apr-29-13 2:55 PM

If this is truly about equality, the government should not recognize marriage at all. If they do that, no one has anything to complain about.

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westline

Apr-29-13 9:25 PM

"The Skagit Valley Tulip festival is a celebration of the beauty of tulips in Washington state on over 1000 acres during the month of April ". Once again I make a post that is a statement of fact, leaning neither left or right, and I get 2 agrees and 9 disagrees in 23 hours. These likes appear to have nothing to do with the post, and everything to do with the attitude of "he/she is conservative, let us paint a negative light on all of his/her posts to discredit him/her."

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hartman75

Apr-30-13 2:00 PM

I've noticed westline, that you pay more attention to the agree/disagree numbers than you do on the substance of your comments. Perhaps the two are related.

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rangeral

Apr-30-13 4:34 PM

hartman, I notice you pay more attention to fiction rather than fact.

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