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Colorado House thankfully starts bar-setting process on gun control

February 20, 2013

It comes as little surprise that the state of Colorado, the state where a gunman opened fire at a movie theater last summer, has taken the lead on stronger gun control within its borders....

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ProdigalSon

Mar-08-13 6:36 PM

As long as "you're" tending to unfinished bidness....

Clarify for the reading masses if your vision of a safer, just Utopia involves banning some guns....

.....or all the guns.

Inquiring minds want to know.

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hartman75

Mar-08-13 11:07 AM

"Hey Pirate, while your..."

My apologies, it should have been "...while you're..."

I thought I'd better get that in before OIIOHH called me out on my grammatical error.

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hartman75

Mar-07-13 5:50 PM

Gun grabber - wow, how original Pirate. Did you think that up by yourself or is it in the NRA handbook. Obviously you are unaware that Fox's Dobbs was hyping a false conspiracy theory. The USMC purchased 2,717 light armored vehicles, NOT the DHS. And the DHS bought the ammo in bulk to save money because "More than 90 federal agencies and 70,000 agents and officers used the department's training center last year." In case you haven't heard, all the gun zealots are buying up so much ammo that it's creating shortages - and higher prices. Hey Pirate, while your hiding from reality in your Armageddon-proof bunker, say hi to Prod for me. I must say, all these conspiracy theories are a laugh a minute.

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Pirate

Mar-07-13 1:17 PM

Colorado and the rest of the gun grabbers may be getting a bit ahead of themselves. It seems like this administration and Homeland Security are concerned about something they aren't being too transparent about. DHS has ordered almost 2 billion rounds of ammunition and 2700 light armored vehicles. The administration has been very carefully laying out rules of engagement for drone use here, stateside. That's a strange contrast to the drive to draw down the lawful defensive weapons in the hands of the general public. If there is something so threatening as to drive those actions it doesn't seem to be the right time to be messing with the 2nd.

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ProdigalSon

Mar-06-13 6:55 PM

"So the ability to own a specific type of gun represents real freedom?"~h75

Not necessarily.

"Shall not be infringed" does.

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KaptainKrunch

Mar-06-13 2:08 PM

Oh Hartman now you went and hurt my feelings. I sure wish I knew where you lived so I could come over and you could apologize. Right buddy...

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hartman75

Mar-06-13 11:23 AM

Gee Kaptain, another childish attempt to make your case against changes in our gun laws - well at least you're consistent. BTW, Chavez died from an infection related to his fight against cancer so I'm not really sure how you think you could help me suffer the same fate. But I guess I should expect as much from someone who plays with their gun.

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hartman75

Mar-05-13 4:21 PM

So the ability to own a specific type of gun represents real freedom? You’re comparing gun laws to the tyranny imposed on the Jews leading up to the holocaust? Your thoughtless analogies are silly and annoying, which ironically, defines you as the twit, Kaptain. The gun law changes being discussed are far removed from the foolish anecdotes you’ve conjured up. Get a grip Kaptain, the worlds not ending and pump-action shotguns won’t be banned in CO. Either by design or lack of knowledge, you don’t appear to have any sense of the facts. Background checks and mandatory registrations are NOT an “infringement” on gun ownership rights by any stretch of the imagination, even yours. BTW Kaptain, your suggestion that Olive move to Cuba with her “socialist” friends is an outstanding display of your insightful deliberation skills. As all my socialist friends would say, Bravo!

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KaptainKrunch

Mar-05-13 11:28 AM

Had enough what Olive, freedom? Want gun control you liberal twit move to Cuba and take your socialist friends with you. No one will take your guns away the leftists say, yet Olives home state is pushing for the banning of the average pump shotgun. Are you OK with that Commonman, or would you actually resist when they come for your hunting rifles. Liberals won't see tyranny until it's loading them on the boxcars.

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Olive1003

Mar-04-13 11:20 PM

Thank you, Marshall Independent writers, for this article. While I have lived in the Marshall area for two years now, I grew up in the Denver metro area. The Columbine High School shooting happened 15 miles from my home when I was in grade school and has greatly influenced my opinions on the gun control debate. I am proud of my home state for taking a step forward and leading by example. I truly believe that my generation, the one that grew up with mass shootings in the news, will be the generation to make some positive changes. We've had enough.

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rangeral

Mar-02-13 2:36 PM

common - you are especially screwed up today in your comments. Where did either prod or I say it was OK to shoot up a school?

Stop making stuff up.

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commonman

Feb-27-13 6:38 PM

By the way al, my definition of a nut job is someone who expects us to defend the right to be armed like you are, and then lose their mind and shoot up a school.

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commonman

Feb-26-13 7:19 PM

prod can't let go of the scare tactics. We have to ban all guns or none at all? You don't scare me. The day is coming all the concerned parents and other citizens will say enough to allowing weapons designed for mass killing being available to the general public.

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ProdigalSon

Feb-22-13 3:20 PM

"Simply putting more guns in the streets isn’t going to solve anything." `h75

Here's some reality: Each day in the US, people reach the age of majority, enabling them to exercise their right to keep and bear arms. Those people alone will increase the number of guns in our society.

So for the fifth time h75....which is it, ban certain firearms or all firearms?

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rangeral

Feb-22-13 3:18 PM

hartman continues to prove he is a nut job.

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hartman75

Feb-22-13 2:41 PM

Pirate, according to the CDF: 15,576 children and teens were injured by guns in 2010 which means 1 child or teen injured every 34 MINUTES; 43 children and teens injured every day; 300 children and teens injured every week.

And you are GUESSING that kids are less safe around guns? My, you ARE perceptive. So I’m sure you would agree that arming teachers and/or putting guns in every school is REALLY a bad idea.

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hartman75

Feb-22-13 2:38 PM

“Where's the outrage?”

That’s what I wonder Prod since 13.2 times MORE children die from gun violence than from drunk drivers and all the gun zealots can do is shrug their shoulders and blame someone/something else. Some of the blame can be placed on our culture, the stigma attached to mental illness, gang violence, ineffective and unenforced gun laws and misguided efforts by the gun lobby all of which contribute to our current state of gun violence. Simply putting more guns in the streets isn’t going to solve anything.

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hartman75

Feb-22-13 2:38 PM

“defining young gang members as children is certainly a misnomer”

Say WHAT, rangeral? How else would you define someone under the age of 14? Do you actually think before posting? Sorry, that was a dumb question.

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Pirate

Feb-22-13 1:32 PM

hartman - I'm guessing you are saying kids are less safe with a gun around than if there were no guns around. Ok, kids are less safe under a doctors care, playing with a dog or near bodies of water. Any other revelations?

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ProdigalSon

Feb-22-13 12:01 PM

Let's put your numbers to the test h75.

1,855 were homicides, 800 were suicides, and 138 were accidental or undetermined. Two-thirds of all gun-related deaths in the United States are suicides. 16,000 homicides across the United States are attributed to gang violence. So is the problem gang related or gun related? You can correlate gang killings with guns. What you can't do is show that guns CAUSE gang violence. The #1 weapon of choice among gang bangers is a machete. Where's the outrage?

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rangeral

Feb-22-13 11:26 AM

hartman - defining young gang members as children is certainly a misnomer - use Chicago as an example.

Let's start with the enforcement of current gun laws and see what happens.

It will also be interesting to hear about the lawsuits filed against the mental health providers in the Aurora shooting case - I suspect a lot of money will be changing hands - and we may never hear due to secrecy clauses in the settlements.

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hartman75

Feb-22-13 10:33 AM

Here are statistics that disprove your claim rangeral:

Of the 211 child passengers ages 14 and younger who died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes in 2010, over half (131) were riding in the vehicle with the alcohol-impaired driver. (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration)

2,793 children and teens died from gun violence in 2009. (Children Defense Fund)

So what was your source rangeral or did you simply make up the information to fit your purpose?

A fact you CAN"t dispute Pirate, is that kids are in greater danger ANYTIME guns are present. Guns will not keep us safe but changes is existing gun laws and increased enforcement will.

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rangeral

Feb-21-13 11:27 PM

common - how many times was a 9 year old killed because one of his parents was driving drunk or on drugs? Happens more than gun deaths.

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Pirate

Feb-21-13 8:34 PM

Lets keep the question simple, common. How many of these shootings took place where there was an armed response or even the possibility of one vs it being little chance of a response or the ability to respond was outright banned and advertised as such?

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commonman

Feb-21-13 8:09 PM

And how many days past that innocent 9 year old being randomly shot in the cities, Pirate? If only al or prod had been there with their conceal and carry permits, or a random guy with an ar style weapon. Perhaps prod can cite how many guns were wrestled away vs. bad guys shot by legally armed civilians to back up his buddy al?

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