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February 8, 2013

Sorry, LaPierre, let’s bring on the background checks THUMBS DOWN: We take issue with what Wayne LaPierre, National Rifle Association executive vice president, said about background checks and how......

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commonman

Feb-11-13 7:27 PM

56, but the choice belongs to the weapon, I mean drug, owner doesn't it? Anger precludes good judgment also.

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hartman75

Feb-11-13 2:54 PM

Gee, 56two58, why didn't you direct your comment to Prod? Isn't Prod the one who made the analogy in the first place?

Personally, I prefer to compare guns to other objects which it more closely resembles. Objects designed to produce the same result - kill or destroy a specific target. Seems to me there are limits of ownership and accessibility on ALL objects DESIGNED for that purpose, except firearms of course.

Daryl Cagle has this hilarious cartoon with the following exchange: Gun seller asks buyer, "Do you believe the govt will take away your gun?" Gun buyer emphatically claims, "YES!" Gun seller calmly replies, "I'm sorry, your gun purchase is denied. You just failed the mental health test."

I believe the jokes that are closer to the truth are the funniest! I'm still laughing!

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56two58

Feb-11-13 1:36 PM

commonman - when taken, those items are a mind altering drugs that preclude people from good judgement and inhibits physical functions. Not analogous.

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hartman75

Feb-11-13 10:56 AM

Great point commonman.

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commonman

Feb-09-13 6:54 PM

Hey, meth and pot are inanimate objects, Prod. By your reasoning they should be legal because they never got up and killed somebody on their own. Then their value on the black market would be nothing and couldn't be used to get guns. You just solved our problems, Prod! Brilliant.

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ProdigalSon

Feb-08-13 5:02 PM

I saw a movie that was based on historical events. It portrayed the ideal of a society where only the military and police had guns.

It's called Schindler's List.

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ProdigalSon

Feb-08-13 3:30 PM

"With all due respect, Mr. LaPierre, quit standing in the way of potential progress when it comes to keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill."~Per P

With all due respect, you FAILED to cite how many hobbyists and collectors are putting their collectibles in the hands of those committing crimes? Use your head. Common criminals don't buy $1800 Model Twelve shotguns to throw down after a mugging.

Meth and Pot are both prohibited items here. Your kid could fill a U Haul with both with access to some money. Do I need to connect the dots so you can picture how the black market will benefit from excessive restrictions and bans? Anyone that's clever enough to source a 8 ball of crack can lay hands on a black market gun. Wake up Per. We're seeing burglaries here push one a day. Legal owned and stored guns rank right up there with cold hard cash as primo grab items. What's grabbed here goes to the Cities. Cities grabs come out here. THINK!!!!

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ProdigalSon

Feb-08-13 3:09 PM

The V. P. Biden stated at a meeting with the NRA "Mr. Baker, regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately.”

Our legal system is not making use of what laws they have now.

The Justice Dept. reports in 2010, 72,600 applicants were denied firearms sales on the basis of a background check. The Feds prosecuted 44 PROHIBITED PERSONS of that 76K, 22 for falsifying the 4473 form, 40 others for reasons related to unlawful gun possession.

Why not up that prosecution number to the point it becomes a deterrent to prohibited offenders, and the law abiding are not stripped of their rights?

Per, you blubber about loop holes that put less than 1% of the guns in the hands of the prohibited when the one I pointed out could get near 80,000 people who illegally attempted to get guns off the street.

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rangeral

Feb-08-13 2:02 PM

Shifty and slimy is a theme going through most of these topics in this editorial.

Per - let;s call for enforcement of existing gun laws before we start looking for new ones.

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OIIOHH

Feb-08-13 10:28 AM

“Shifty, and kind of slimy…” to recruit businesses from another state? Then that’s PRECISELY what Southwest Minnesota State University is also, for recruiting students from other states to come to Minnesota. Shifty, and kind of slimy.

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