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Legislators: Gun law changes needed, but tread lightly

January 31, 2013

The state of Minnesota needs to update its gun laws — no one can disagree with that....

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cfh101proof

Jan-31-13 6:41 AM

Trust our politicians? hahahahahahahaha Is this person for real? NEWS FLASH Criminals do NOT care about gun laws and they will break them regardless! It is the law adiding citizens these laws hurt. Sure lets give the criminals a little more confidence when they decide to car jack someone with a gun, knowing that person probably doesnt have a gun because of all the laws. Skrew that! Open carry for all law abiding citizens! I want my AR15 slung over my back when i go to walmart for all the criminals to see. You think they would mess with that?

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cfh101proof

Jan-31-13 6:45 AM

They want to take our guns, as many as they can for a whole other reason. I suggest you people figure it out, esp you gun grabbers. Its not about protecting children cuz if that were the case, Obama would stop drone bombing the Children in Pakistan and Yemen and everywhere else.

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rangeral

Jan-31-13 9:02 AM

How about enforcing the laws already on the books?

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hartman75

Jan-31-13 3:14 PM

rangeral, which existing laws are NOT being enforced that could reduce gun violence?

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Wharog

Jan-31-13 4:22 PM

I absolutely disagree with the Editor and feel that MN firearm laws are fine exactly the way they are. There is no reason to suddenly "do something", especially when that "something" will do on the order of nothing positive. If politicians, liberal media, and newspaper editors were serious about saving people's lives they would probably be focusing on a cure for cancer or heart disease, but even if firearms were a valid focus they would be looking at HANDGUNS, which are used in exponentially more crimes than the improperly termed "assault weapons" they are so fervent to remove. BTW, did you know that more people have been murdered in Chicago since the "War on Terror" started than there have been US casualties in Afghanistan? Most restrictive gun control laws in the nation, and more American deaths than a WAR ZONE. Obviously gun control doesn't work.

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ProdigalSon

Jan-31-13 6:14 PM

Per. This article resembles a soddy trying to persuade a sheep into the loading chute bound for the slaughter house.

It's in the best interest of the whole, right?

One thing that might help with change Per Peterson, would be for you to get glasses. Not all the flock are sheep.

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commonman

Jan-31-13 7:52 PM

Yes, there are many wolves in sheeps clothing commenting here. Here's a parallel: For years non-smokers were subjected to smokers "rights" to smoke wherever they wanted because it was their "right" to smoke wherever they wanted. Enough became enough and for the safety of society, we had to limit the places smokers could inflict their damage on the rest of society. The portion of the country that does not want to be exposed to the gun activists has a voice in this matter and I hope they use it.

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sumyounguy

Feb-01-13 1:46 PM

"....SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

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Wiblemo

Feb-04-13 7:37 PM

"A WELL REGULATED MILITIA . . ."

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commonman

Feb-04-13 7:47 PM

I can't believe how many people are willing to write off those poor victims of school shootings as an excuse that our country needs to have MORE armed people. I'm disgusted.

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KaptainKrunch

Feb-05-13 1:10 PM

I can't believe how many people are willing to politicize those poor victims of school shootings as an excuse that law abiding citizens be stripped of their rights. I'm disgusted. See kinda goes both ways.

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ProdigalSon

Feb-05-13 1:33 PM

The US Government burned 26 children to death at Waco. I'm disgusted.

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commonman

Feb-05-13 6:38 PM

I don't think the right to own guns would be stripped away. That's another all or nothing argument meant to scare everyone into thinking the worst. Certain guns should never have been made available to the general public. The fact that they get into the wrong hands is a biproduct of that. I refuse to look at those children as collateral damage for KK's right to own assault weapons and I don't see David Koresh as a sympathetic figure, trying to use those children to make himself a martyr. I thought Prod was an educated man, I stand corrected.

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ProdigalSon

Feb-06-13 10:33 AM

39 states have voiced no intention of changing firearms laws.

The US Senate is dominated by the Democrats by three seats. 20 Democrat seats are up for grabs in next year's election.

The US House of Representatives is Republican controlled, and I don't see gun control gaining any ground there.

The President could push by executive orders, and tangle with the groundswell of constitutional challengers lined up, including the ACLU. Type of firearms banned wouldn't be the issue, rather, the separation-of-powers doctrine would be key. A can of worms that doesn't need to be taken on in light of the greater goals of this administration.

It's harder to ignore the noise of the anti's than it is to block out the bleatings of hungry baby sheep. Observation leads me to think the lack of clear cut concrete methods and goals will cause the anti gun noisemakers to implode. Hopefully it will die of infighting and be buried with their junk science.

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commonman

Feb-06-13 7:36 PM

It will more likely die of special interest groups, donations, etc. Sad to say Prod you may be right; however, I think the majority of the public is for new gun control measures. We will see how much money matters over consensus...

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ProdigalSon

Feb-06-13 10:05 PM

"...which existing laws are NOT being enforced that could reduce gun violence?"~ h75

How about perjury on the the form 4473? In 2010, prosecutors went after just 22 cases of information falsification, according to the Department of Justice. Over 72,600 applications were denied on the basis of a background check. Lying on the form is a felony.

"..regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don't have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately." ~ V.P. Joe Biden to the NRA, as he proposes a host of sweeping new laws.

hartman75?

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ProdigalSon

Feb-06-13 10:27 PM

Gun prosecutions in 2011 were down 35 percent from the previous administration’s peak in 2004, according to Justice Department data compiled by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University.

It appears anti gun legislators have shifted focus from inconveniencing the criminals and prohibited with accountability, over to the deer-in-the-headlights law abiding.

If they are honest about enforcing gun laws, when will Holder be arrested for selling guns to criminals?

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ProdigalSon

Feb-07-13 7:46 PM

For those interested in protecting your 2A rights, look into the Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, a Minnesota based group working to block infringements to our rights to keep and bear arms. They've been front and center at the House hearings this week, and have presented great testimony on our behalf. Google GOCRA, sign up for newsletters, support where you can. They have no paid staff, all contributions go to the cause.

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commonman

Feb-08-13 6:23 PM

PS...blah, blah, blah. You are interested in your own gun collection more than other people's lives. Just admit it.

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Really

Feb-18-13 9:59 PM

Prod, FYI the US Govt. did not start the fire in Waco. The Branch Davidians themselves started fires in three different rooms. The children died because the adults in that crazy ass cult chose that for them. They could have sent them out at any time. That is not an opinion, that is a fact. Typical conservative attempt to distort truth.

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